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Inexpensive power upgrades for the 325i/iS/iX motor (e30)
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September 11, 2005, 07:03:31 pm »
Thought I'd compile a list of cheap M20B25 HP upgrades, all in USD for a good frame of reference:
Injectors: Factory injectors are barely adequate to even feed a stock motor when they're new, chances are they aren't feeding enough fuel above 5500 any more. You will want to upgrade your injectors before doing any other upgrades. Any other worthwhile modification will max out your stock pieces and be theoretically useless. Cheap replacements include stock pieces from an M50/S50 motor (E36 2.5 and 3.0, rated 17.5lb/hr) and Ford V8 (Mustang/Crown Vic/etc, rated 19lb/hr). Either set will do the same thing, but using the M50/S50 ones is a little easier because they are all Design II type, meaning the fuel sprays out of 4 pintles instead of 1. Better atomization.
Price: Typically go used for anywhere from $30-80, good idea to get them flow matched and rebuilt afterwards ($25/ea typically).
Installation Difficulty: 3/5 (you need to get dirty for this).
Chip: Because the motor was designed to run on 87 octane, there is a lot of potential in aftermarket software programming that is designed to use 91 and above. Good quality chips not only improve maximum power, they change throttle response at all openings and result in a smoother, more responsive feel. Reputable tuners include Jim Conforti (also labeled under Turner Motorsports) and Mark D'Sylva (MarkD, EAT, Ultrachip). Jim's software requires 91 octane, while Mark has two versions, one that requires 91 and a more aggressive chip that needs 93. Back to back comparison tests have been performed between the JimC and MarkD 93, and the MarkD software had a distinct power advantage. MarkD's website
Price: $249 for JC, $199 for MarkD (91 or 93).
Installation Difficulty: 2/5 (don't bend the pins!).
M30 AFM: The stock AFM is a known bottleneck of the induction system, to the point where improving flow north of it (read: upgrading to a CAI or running no filter at all) doesn't improve power at all. The M30 AFM is larger and allows better airflow, and is worth about 5hp up top. You will want to use an AFM ending with the part number ending in 027, this one is plug and play with the M20 electronics. You can use the stock M20 airbox if you heat it up a bit to stretch it over the slightly larger M30 port, or you can get a 3" K&N cone filter and slap that on for bling and a cool sound (get a heatshield if you don't want to lose power). Dave Adams did a full write up on the AFM upgrade, here. In case the link goes down, here is the dyno graph hosted on my server.
Price: $30-80 for the "027" M30 AFM, $25-45 for a K&N cone (optional)
Installation Difficulty: 1/5 if you get a K&N cone to mount, 2/5 if you want to use the stock airbox.
Any comments or suggestions for additions, post them up and I'll consider adding them to the list. For now, these are tried and true upgrades that provide solid gains for little dough.
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October 28, 2005, 04:46:17 pm »
Save your money...none of these 'upgrades' provide solid gains
Yes, the have been tried and most of the time the owners end up feeling blue. The only solid proof is provided by the same folks selling these 'upgrades'
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November 20, 2005, 01:57:22 am »
hmm well for high gains no, your not gonna see much
but for a little bit of a performance upgrade and some smoother driving yeah they help
for ex. in my car as of now, intake, exhaust, 98 m3 injectors, chip
i dropped almost a full second off my times at the track
and during regular driving throttle response is alot smoother over the powerband, and its much more responsive
aside from that taking off powersteering, and a/c hose and see how it runs, then always suspension, lighter mags
should help alot with driving
but don't forget this is just a quick little guide for some small tips
there's lots you can do to increase power
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November 21, 2005, 03:45:09 pm »
Well if i may add some words.
1. If you install a power chip on a atmosferic motor it is going to give you only
abbout 6 to 8 HP. If you want more, then you have to change the camshaft with a lighter one, you have to polish the intake, and you have to get a propper exhaust, which will get you the most power. The cone filter doesn´t add nothing.
ok your car is a little bit louder but otherwise it brings you nothing exept mybe a greasy LMM.
If you want to make a atmosferic engine faster you have to spend a lot of money. So a propper upgrade costs you well over 3000 Euros.
The atmosferic engine in a BMW is not designed for upgrading because it is allready made on the border parametres. That? why we have to take care of the cooling temperature or better we have one eye allways on the temp.
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November 22, 2005, 11:26:37 pm »
yeah you also can always upgrade to itb's, get more aggresive cams, change the lsd, 3.0 oversize kit etc...
but yeah there's lots of things you can do to the engine to increase hp, but they all take cash
thats why this is under inexpensive power upgrades
the most significant gains your gonna see on the engine it to turbo it, like you said heating is a problem with these cars, though turbocharging increases underhood temperatures, again theres lots of things you can do to help decrease, maybe should make another thread about that
hmm now to think about it, i can also make a thread to help with lightening the car up to increase times
might have to get started on some of those soon
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November 23, 2005, 10:23:56 am »
Well in my opinion the best thing you can do to increase the engine power and the most inexpensive way is that you add a "supercharger".
Why.
With a supercharger you dont have to change the pistons, camshaft and other materials, like you have to do when you put a turbocharger on the engine.
The supercharger will give you up to 50HP without changing enything.You dont even have to change the fuelinjection parametres. The compressed air is all that it takes to add some HP.
Ofcourse the supercharger will give you more power from the begining as for the turbocharger that is pushing the air just for a brief moment. But it pushes harder than a supercharger. But thats where the problems beginn with an turbo upgrade.
The pistons are made from smithed alloy. Why? Because in cast alloy are pores that will be filled with the air-gasoline mixture and than later on with the turbined air will burn with a higher temperature and the pores will only be bigger till the point when the piston is burned thru.
With a supercharger you have a smooth konstant air supply so there is no need for new pistons.
Offcourse i have to add that the supercharger is capable to give a lot more air but than you have to rebuilt the engine the same way as for the turbocharging.
So up to 50HP with an charger is no problem. When it is more that you want from your supercharger than you have to rebuilt as i mentioned.
one other thing is speaking for the supercharger. All you need is just another belt on the beltdrive and maybe a intercooler and a hose that goes into the aircolector.
With a turbo you have also to adjust the fuelinjection timing and also you have to rebuilt the air intake hose and the exhaust hose to fitt in the turbocharger.
The turbocharger is more expensive when you buy it than a supercharger.
As for the supercharger. You can take any supercharger you want.
From a mercedes benz 230 kompressor is usually enough to add additional 50 HP to your beloved Bimmer.
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November 24, 2005, 01:07:03 am »
hmm true, but unfortunately there aren't any supercharge kits for older bmw haven't found anything for e30's on the other hand for the newer models there are quite a bit available for decent prices
i probably should have mentioned in the title that this is mostly for e30's
for e30's though if i remember right the stock block can hold up to around 300tq, which is decent considering its over 15yrs old
a typical custom kit can run you about 2-4k for a basic setup
so then again depending on what model you have it may be better and more fesable to go with a supercharger
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